So, why not just use batteries to store BigWind energy? Battery storage is simply not dense enough. Read below and you will see the limitations. It does not make sense. We need energy DENSE sources that are efficient, dispatchable and inexpensive (nuclear/gas/coal/hydro) for our homes and businesses. Batteries, though rechargeable, are not green. Visit a lithium mine in northern Chile(pic above). Texas would not permit such a facility, and consider trying to open one in California or Massachusetts. And keep in mind, that lithium, like lead and cadmium, also popular for batteries, is a poisonous heavy metal. This is another aspect of the fake news about new renewables. And consumers need a lot of mines and batteries. A new battery for a full-size car stores 1 kWh. Running New York City for two cloudy, windless days would require about 530 million such batteries, about 62 per person….Read through the article(s) below and you will see that just 1 Tesla car battery uses 63 kg of lithium= more than the amount in 10,000 cell phones….
In the past, we have blogged about the poor performance of industrial wind energy turbines in Ohio (just ask USV/ONU schools about this!). It is public record that they actually produce less than 40% of what they touted to the public. Remember how many homes were to be powered by an industrial site? Hogwash! Anyway, due to the intermittent nature of industrial wind energy turbines, they must ALWAYS have natural gas or coal running in the background….in other words, they NEVER stand alone and replace ZERO fossil fuel plants. What is the obvious solution to this problem? Batteries. Except that all of us know that batteries are anything BUT environmentally friendly and do NOT last nearly long enough before they are tossed (but not in the trash!) Knowing this, What is your prediction about the proposed batteries (5x semitruck sized) for Ohio?….
We’re now told the solution to the chaos delivered by wind and solar is giant lithium-ion batteries, of the kind peddled by Elon Musk. The reefer-smoking, Californian carpetbagger managed to offload one unit in wind power obsessed, South Australia, collected $150 million, and was never seen again….
This conjob was first sold in South Australia, as with their experiment of a 50% Renewable Energy Target descending into a costly farce, and to cover-up the fact they needed spend several hundred million on emergency diesel generators to keep the lights on just before the state election, with Hollywood fanfare SA announced they were installing ‘’the world’s largest battery’’ to save the day.
And unsurprisingly, the green useless idiots of the left have swallowed this hook, line and sinker – as rent seekers continued to go laughing to the bank to cash their millions from subsidies.
Well the performance of the ‘’world’s largest battery’’ last Thursday exposed what a complete con job it’s been – and delusion that we can power our economy on solar panels, wind turbines and big batteries is as dangerous to the economy as rabies is in a dog.
Let’s look at the evidence from 1/24/2019…
As wind power collapsed into the afternoon, prices in South Australia surged to $14,500 Mwh (they averaged around $40 Mwh before all these ‘cheap’ renewables flooded into the grid) at around 4.30pm ‘’the world’s biggest battery’’ started to dribble in 30MW to the grid.
The 30MW was less than 1% of South Australia’s total demand, and less than 0.1% of the National grid’s demand.
The world’s biggest battery continued to dribble out around 30MW until 7.30pm, then it ran flat, rendering it completely useless as peak demand hit at 7.30pm.
Meanwhile the emergency diesel generators (chewing through a reported 80,000 litres of diesel an hour) were doing the real work in SA, pumping out over 400MW at a time on demand – and they continued to so as demand peaked at 7.30pm, when the world’s largest battery had given up the ghost.
So at peak demand, in the renewables paradise of South Australia, 97% of their electricity was coming from fossil fuels.
Over the afternoon, I estimate the ‘’world’s biggest battery’’ delivered only around 100 Mwh of electricity – compared to 2000Mwh by the diesel generators.
The facts should be clear from the evidence that it’s a dangerous delusion that Australia can run the economy with solar/wind backed up by big batteries…
Have you educated yourselves about these truths? Please do and share with others. As you read in our last post, BigWind, the pollster allies and lobbying groups are quick to persuade our legislators a ‘different story’. Have you shared these truths with anyone today?? How about your legislators??…..
…When Baldosser states that wind turbines’ “efficiency is that they are quickly able to go on and off line” and if we need extra power it is easy to “put more turbines online,” it leaves the impression that wind turbines are turned on and off with a switch and that the wind is always there to use at a moment’s notice. This is just not the case.
In real life, the variable wind only blows enough for the turbines to generate one third of the electricity they could if they ran full power all the time. And, as every reader knows, the wind blows when it wants to, not when you want it to….
The intermittent output of turbines is one of their big downfalls. Some people like to say that it’s not a problem because they are connected to the grid and some other generating source will fill in the gaps. Currently, the only reliable source of power that is always ready to ramp up at a moment’s notice is certain kinds of natural gas generators. In the end, they will generate the two-thirds of the electricity that the turbines were suppose to provide but can’t because of variable winds.… And, because of the physics involved in using gas as a backup, the inefficiencies cause as much or more gas to be used in backing up wind turbines as would be used in more efficient full-time gas generators making all the electricity and not building any turbines in the first place. That is why wind turbines do not save on CO2 emissions. And remember, whenever you read that “wind energy is now the cheapest form of electricity” the cost of backing it up when the wind slows is not included in that price. Intermittent electricity has little value to you as the end user.
But what about batteries, you say? Baldosser’s 55-gallon drums sound like batteries! … While there are a few installed in California and Australia, they are only capable of storing a few seconds’ or minutes’ worth of power, and they do so at a very high cost. While there are many storage ideas being researched, there is nothing even close to being developed or deployed that can store the massive amount of electricity needed at an affordable price….If we were to ramp up current battery technology to the required scale, besides being extremely expensive, it would involve many environmental impacts and require moving mountains of earth on a scale even greater than mining coal to acquire the necessary natural elements like lithium, etc.
In the end, there is no perfect way to generate electricity without causing some issue. If we think CO2 is the immediate biggest problem, then we should be installing more nuclear plants, as they are the only thing that can generate massive amounts of stable electricity with no CO2. ...Eventually, they will realize that large number of voters being forced to live near wind turbines will not be happy with their current politicians. At that point, the wind fad will be over, but we will be left to live among the huge flailing armed machines for decades into the future, while things like solar panels would have had very few effects on surrounding residents….
Some will make lots of money on wind power and they will be happy. They are the ones so busy promoting it now. Every fad in history was pushed to its maximum by those making money on it.
This story will become commonplace as we put more industrial wind sites on our energy grid. Why? The wind does not blow at a constant rate. The output of an industrial wind turbine looks more like a polygraph test, with the line going up and down. Everytime the line drops down, we need traditional energy producers (coal,n.gas,nuclear,hydro) to make up that difference and this is where complexity exists. It is nearly impossible to allow for uninterupted energy supply when wind turbines are on/off/on/off. Supposedly, this wind site utilizes batteries to store some of the excess load, but this technology is clearly flawed. Additionally, someone needs to tell them that batteries are anything BUT green for our environment. Would you like to live in a home where these ‘brownouts’ will become commonplace? All of us will be, unless we can convince our legislators to wise up to the truth behind these machines….
The wind farm mills along Ulupalakua Ranch quit working for a while today. Maui Electric Company says 19,258 customers lost power today at 12:34 p.m. for about 20 minutes when the Auwahi Wind Farm tripped offline resulting in a sudden and severe loss of wind generation on Maui Electric’s system….
As a result, MECO was forced to “load shed” customers in order to protect and stabilize Maui’s electrical grid. Presumably that means shutting down as many customers as it takes to operate efficiently for as many customers as possible until the windmills were powering again….
Note: The energy per unit of mass in a battery is much lower than than our common fuels like gasoline. When is the last time you threw away a battery? Can you imagine the landfill waste that will be generated if we begin to build turbines with massive batteries inside? Some batteries contain toxic metals – nice, cadmium, lead acid, nickel metal hydride. Their production and mining for their ingredients is anything BUT green. And how would the batteries perform during temperature extremes like the summer doldrums and winter blizzards? Would they be safe in extreme temperature conditions? Oh, nevermind, I forgot that wind energy turbines are VIRTUALLY USELESS when we actually need electricity the most! Their capacity values are almost nill during those times!
Researchers from North Carolina State University and Johns Hopkins University have found that an increase in the use of wind power generation can make the power grid more fragile and susceptible to disruptions. But the researchers didnt just identify the problem — they have also devised a technique for coordinating wind power generation and energy storage in order to minimize the potential for such power disruptions….
…we have designed a technique that coordinates the activity of controllers inside the wind turbines and battery management systems to even out the flow of power from wind farms into the grid,” says Dr. Aranya Chakrabortty, an assistant professor of electrical engineering at NC State and senior author of a paper describing the work.
…If the power output for the wind farm increases, the surplus can be siphoned off to charge batteries at the storage facility, instead of being dumped directly onto the power grid. Similarly, if the power output at a wind farm declines, the batteries can compensate for the loss and provide power to the grid.
“By matching the behavior of the two controllers, we can produce the desired damping effect on the power flow and restore stable grid behavior,” Chakrabortty says.
Would this tarnish BigWind’s “green” image…How is the use/storage of 75000 LITERS of sulfuric acid/vanadium pentoxide “green”? I believe that Vanadium is used as a catalyst to convert sulfur dioxide into sulfuric acid, hence the term battery “acid”. Where does Vanadium come from? Predominantly China…
The Scottish island of Gigha is to be the focus of a £2.5m experiment aimed at solving a major technological problem: how to store energy generated by wind, tide and wave power plants. The project, which will involve building giant batteries containing 75,000 litres of sulphuric acid mixed with vanadium pentoxide, is intended to allow power generated by the islands wind turbines to be stored for later use.